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Toriko vs Goku
Tweet Topic Started: Jul 28 2017, 08:42 PM (784 Views)
+ Son-Goku	Jul 28 2017, 08:42 PM Post #1
孫悟空 Posts: 13,358 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	This is Toriko during the Regal Mammoth Arc. No Jewel Meat. When Toriko loses, he fights again with equal speed to Goku's. Round 1: Base Goku (Buu Arc;No Kaioken) Round 2: Base Goku (Buu Arc;Kaioken) Round 3: SS Goku (Frieza Arc) Round 4: SS Goku (Cell Arc) Round 5: SS Goku (Buu Arc) Round 6: SS2 Goku (Buu Arc) Round 7: SS3 Goku (Buu Arc) Scenario 2: Toriko eats the Jewel Meat, his strength is the same when he fought after he ate it. Edited by Son-Goku, Jul 28 2017, 08:42 PM.
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+ Steve	Jul 28 2017, 09:16 PM Post #2
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	He gets passed round 2 on his own I'd say and with equal speed he probably gets Cell arc Goku with the Jewel Meat power up. No way could Goku withstand being hit by a 10 Ren Kugi Punch. Especially not if he done one of the ones where it's 10 hits at a single instant rather than in succession. Goku would fight too stupidly, he'd let Toriko charge up a 10 Ren and he'd get blown up. A 5 Ren would do massive damage even and it's an attack like nothing Goku has ever encountered.
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+ Solid Snake	Jul 28 2017, 10:38 PM Post #3
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Greenough Jul 28 2017, 08:42 PM This is Toriko during the Regal Mammoth Arc. No Jewel Meat. When Toriko loses, he fights again with equal speed to Goku's. Round 1: Base Goku (Buu Arc;No Kaioken) Round 2: Base Goku (Buu Arc;Kaioken) Round 3: SS Goku (Frieza Arc) Round 4: SS Goku (Cell Arc) Round 5: SS Goku (Buu Arc) Round 6: SS2 Goku (Buu Arc) Round 7: SS3 Goku (Buu Arc) Scenario 2: Toriko eats the Jewel Meat, his strength is the same when he fought after he ate it. Goku oneshots, he's way too powerful and fast for Toriko to even scratch him. He's superior to base kids who could fight 18/Lazuli a bit, who's definitely superior to Much Frieza, who's superior to his half dead self who survived a planet's explosion. Any Super Saiyan form stomps the hell out of Torino with up most ease. Scenario 2: How big of boost is the Jewel Meat, if it can allow him to bypass 18/Lazuli, he could beat base Goku then but still not Super Saiyan without context on it's amps.
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+ Son-Goku	Jul 28 2017, 10:55 PM Post #4
孫悟空 Posts: 13,358 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	How is Goku stronger? At the beginning of Toriko manga, Toriko was fishing and he said his fishing rod could hold up to 40 tons. Goku in the Buu Arc had to go Super Saiyan to manage that amount of weight. Yet Toriko is fishing that.
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Notaka	Jul 28 2017, 10:57 PM Post #5
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	Greenough Jul 28 2017, 10:55 PM How is Goku stronger? At the beginning of Toriko manga, Toriko was fishing and he said his fishing rod could hold up to 40 tons. Goku in the Buu Arc had to go Super Saiyan to manage that amount of weight. Yet Toriko is fishing that. How is lifting relevant, when you're fighting against someone who can casually destroy the solar system ? also, just curious, Is this Toriko at his peak ?
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+ Son-Goku	Jul 28 2017, 11:12 PM Post #6
孫悟空 Posts: 13,358 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Notaka Jul 28 2017, 10:57 PM Greenough Jul 28 2017, 10:55 PM How is Goku stronger? At the beginning of Toriko manga, Toriko was fishing and he said his fishing rod could hold up to 40 tons. Goku in the Buu Arc had to go Super Saiyan to manage that amount of weight. Yet Toriko is fishing that. How is lifting relevant, when you're fighting against someone who can casually destroy the solar system ? also, just curious, Is this Toriko at his peak ? Physically powerful. Nope, check OP. Toriko during the Regal Mammoth arc.
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Notaka	Jul 28 2017, 11:15 PM Post #7
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	So this is literally in his first arc. Sorry, Toriko doesn't stand a chance, even with speed equalized. He's against a planet buster. I don't see how being a little bit stronger physically would help him. Only case he could win is if it was H2H only and speed equalized.
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+ Son-Goku	Jul 28 2017, 11:18 PM Post #8
孫悟空 Posts: 13,358 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Notaka Jul 28 2017, 11:15 PM So this is literally in his first arc. Sorry, Toriko doesn't stand a chance, even with speed equalized. He's against a planet buster. I don't see how being a little bit stronger physically would help him. Only case he could win is if it was H2H only and speed equalized. No, it's not the first arc actually. Toriko does have techniques. How is Goku going to survive his 5-Hit or his Fork and Knife when he's more powerful?
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Notaka	Jul 28 2017, 11:20 PM Post #9
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	DBZ fighters shrug off planetary attacks. Did Toriko do that in that particular arc ? And lifting strength isn't everything. There's still speed in which he's outclassed, striking strength which too he's outclassed. It's basically someone who could destroy a city against someone who can destroy the earth. not comparable imo.
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+ Steve	Jul 29 2017, 12:17 AM Post #10
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Lifting strength isn't everything and yet you think Ki blasts are the only methods of attack that matter? Most of these Goku's can't even remotely come close to Toriko's level of strength. The burden of proof falls on you to prove he can just shrug off any hit that isn't a Ki blast. There has never been a scene in Dragon Ball where someone physically stronger has failed to do damage because somebody else had more powerful Ki. I'm not sure how many times we need to go over this... A Ki blast and a punch don't damage the same way. It's really that simple. Also lifting strength does matter when it clearly translates to "this guy is hella strong" If you can lift a lot you can punch hard too unless explicitly stated otherwise. Toriko's whole thing is punching so yeah, how much he lifts is most definitely relevant. EDIT If weight can put physical strain on Goku's body explain why being punched wouldn't hurt him. Edited by Steve, Jul 29 2017, 12:21 AM.
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+ Solid Snake	Jul 29 2017, 01:33 AM Post #11
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,961 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Steve Jul 29 2017, 12:17 AM Lifting strength isn't everything and yet you think Ki blasts are the only methods of attack that matter? Most of these Goku's can't even remotely come close to Toriko's level of strength. The burden of proof falls on you to prove he can just shrug off any hit that isn't a Ki blast. There has never been a scene in Dragon Ball where someone physically stronger has failed to do damage because somebody else had more powerful Ki. I'm not sure how many times we need to go over this... A Ki blast and a punch don't damage the same way. It's really that simple. Also lifting strength does matter when it clearly translates to "this guy is hella strong" If you can lift a lot you can punch hard too unless explicitly stated otherwise. Toriko's whole thing is punching so yeah, how much he lifts is most definitely relevant. EDIT If weight can put physical strain on Goku's body explain why being punched wouldn't hurt him. We had this dance before yo, attack potency. Goku and company shown time and time again, lifting strength doesn't mean that's how hard you hit. If they can punch away planet busters then what the hell is city level attacks gonna do? This is dead a*** laughable that we're still debating this.
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Billa	Jul 29 2017, 02:07 AM Post #12
Thala na Gethu! Posts: 4,218 Group: Member Member #7,273 Joined: February 3, 2012 Favourite Anime Nothin What Browser do you use? Nothin Favourite Manga Nothin	This fight is over before it begins 1st Form Frieza back in Frieza Arc wiped off Planet Vegeta. In his freaking 1st Form!!! The topic discusses abt Buu Arc Goku You know how it ends. Thx Notaka for clarifying.



+ Steve	Jul 29 2017, 06:54 AM Post #13
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Solid Snake Jul 29 2017, 01:33 AM We had this dance before yo, attack potency. Goku and company shown time and time again, lifting strength doesn't mean that's how hard you hit. If they can punch away planet busters then what the hell is city level attacks gonna do? This is dead a*** laughable that we're still debating this. sigh but it does though... Name one character who can lift extremely heavy things who can't punch hard who also isn't a comedy character. This isn't a dance y'all just keep going in circles with your hands over your ears not refuting any points. If you want to say that's true then you're saying physical attacks and Ki attacks are equivalent which just isn't true and renders them pointless within Dragon Ball. It's blatantly clear a punch has Ki in it but nowhere near as much as a Ki blast. So why can they deflect Ki blasts with a tiny amount of Ki but with their raw strength? A punch shouldn't even have 1% the Ki a blast does yet somebody weaker can still deflect them. Heck it's Piccolo's favourite thing to do(though largely in filler) Explain how that makes any sense there. Either Ki blasts offer the unlimited destruction you say they do or they're easily bounced away like ping pong balls with a small amount of Ki in comparison ergo physical strength matters. Whenever someone knocks a Ki blast away from a distance it's with a tiny energy ball and at close range just with their hands and a coating of Ki. Come on, the answer is clear there. Strength matters, it blatantly does and Toriko verse is pure muscle. "But Ki" is just a copout argument that proves nothing hence why we've come full circle again. Ain't no reason why Toriko shouldn't be able to do the same thing to Ki blasts. Tons of higher tier characters do when actual provable planet busters are flying about all over and they're way more complex than anything in Dragon Ball.
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Darker	Jul 29 2017, 08:05 AM Post #14
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,356 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	I don't see the point of putting a very consistently powerful character with one whose consistency is rather nonexistent. It's near impossible to determine how strong Goku truly is, and in a fight like this, it's hard to see a victor. Frankly DBZ characters shouldn't be used against characters like Toriko, abilities-wise they're far too complex and a bit haxed.
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Notaka	Jul 29 2017, 10:42 AM Post #15
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	Steve Jul 29 2017, 12:17 AM Lifting strength isn't everything and yet you think Ki blasts are the only methods of attack that matter? Most of these Goku's can't even remotely come close to Toriko's level of strength. The burden of proof falls on you to prove he can just shrug off any hit that isn't a Ki blast. There has never been a scene in Dragon Ball where someone physically stronger has failed to do damage because somebody else had more powerful Ki. I'm not sure how many times we need to go over this... A Ki blast and a punch don't damage the same way. It's really that simple. Also lifting strength does matter when it clearly translates to "this guy is hella strong" If you can lift a lot you can punch hard too unless explicitly stated otherwise. Toriko's whole thing is punching so yeah, how much he lifts is most definitely relevant. EDIT If weight can put physical strain on Goku's body explain why being punched wouldn't hurt him. Quote: Lifting strength isn't everything and yet you think Ki blasts are the only methods of attack that matter? Yes it isn't. If it was, Then Toriko might as well stomp Child Franklin Richards, whose lifting strength is akin to a regular child. If it was a lifting contest then Toriko stomps Quote: Most of these Goku's can't even remotely come close to Toriko's level of strength. The burden of proof falls on you to prove he can just shrug off any hit that isn't a Ki blast. Uh no. DBZ fighters survive being sent from one island to another by a physical hit, no less. Where did Toriko ever do that ? Goku in the 23rd Budokai Arc survived an explosion that could have destroyed an island which is far above what Toriko did in that arc. Now you're pitting him against a Goku who is literally millions of time stronger. Quote: There has never been a scene in Dragon Ball where someone physically stronger has failed to do damage because somebody else had more powerful Ki. No there aren't because the More ki you have, the physically stronger you are. It doesn't matter if your opponent is a mass of muscle, if you have more ki than him you are physically stronger. That's how DBZ works. Quote: Also lifting strength does matter when it clearly translates to "this guy is hella strong" If you can lift a lot you can punch hard too unless explicitly stated otherwise. Toriko's whole thing is punching so yeah, how much he lifts is most definitely relevant. What you fail to understand is that Lifting strength doesn't matter much in a fight. If you can lift a mountain, that's good, but what the hell is it gonna do against someone who can casually destroy the earth ? If Toriko was in DBZ, i'd estimate his powerlevel in the High hundreds, and that's being generous. You're pitting him against someone who's powerlevel is in the millions. And physical strength of the opponent becomes irrelevant when you have a higher KI. They can't hurt you no matter what. Like snake said, It's laughable to think Toriko has a chance whatsoever. Goku can survive his punches, Toriko can't survive Goku's attacks. Goku would blitz Toriko, and would blast him to smithereens.
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